Nurse Blake's Story: From Bedside Nurse to Self-Made Entrepreneur, Comedian, Advocate and Influencer

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[00:00:38] You're listening to Ask Nurse Alice presented by Nurse.org where Alice Benjamin combines no nonsense advice with thought-provoking interviews. Hello friends and welcome to the Ask Nurse Alice podcast. The show we talk about anything and everything nursing and healthcare related.

[00:00:55] I'm your host, Alice Benjamin, clinical nurse specialist, family nurse practitioner and chief nursing officer here at Nurse.org. Today's episode you guys are definitely, definitely in for a treat. I get to reconnect with one of my nurse buddies who many of you know, actually millions of

[00:01:09] people around the world know now, as Nurse Blake. Now he's not only a nurse which is amazing already but he's a content creator, internationally torn comedian, best-selling author, health advocate, keynote speaker, like so many things and he's a national treasure. So please welcome to the show Blake.

[00:01:28] It is so good to see you again. Oh, I'm so happy. Thanks for having me on. Oh, I'm so glad to reconnect and just fun fact guys. Just so you guys know, I actually had the opportunity to work with Blake. What was that like several years ago?

[00:01:42] Definitely before the pandemic we did an American Red Cross Nissan campaign. We were fundraising around one of the major hurricanes at the time. And we had like first aid kits and we were doing our nursing thing. And so that was so much fun. That's when we met.

[00:01:58] Yeah. It's so it's so nice to see you that you're doing well and so growing. It's it's incredible. I'm doing good work. So thank you. And speaking of growing now Blake, come on out. Like this has been an amazing like journey.

[00:02:12] I can't even imagine your journey, but the journey of watching you like I'm like where's my popcorn? This is good. Like watching someone flourish in like unapologetically be their authentic self and get to do what they want to do. At least that's what it looks like for us.

[00:02:27] So as a nurse, gosh, I don't even know where to start. You like so many amazing things, but kind of just kind of walk us through some of your journey because you know, many of us know you from social media,

[00:02:37] obviously it's kind of, you know, we saw from nurse to kind of developing into like this comedic role, which we needed because we needed some laughter. Honey, like we was crying at the back. I'm telling you into all of these other things. Yeah.

[00:02:50] So although I don't I'm pretty sure anybody who's listening knows already, but can you just walk us a little bit about your journey? Like why nursing? And then are you, you know, transitioned to many of the things that you're working on now? Yeah, for sure.

[00:03:02] So I've been a nurse for about nine years now. I graduated from the University of Central Florida back in 2014. And I actually got into healthcare mostly from my parents. My dad has been a respiratory therapist for over 30 years on the night shift.

[00:03:20] And my mom was in medical device sales. So at a young age, it was instantly you're going to be a nurse. You're going to be in healthcare. But I know I don't want to do respiratory because I heard all my dad's stories.

[00:03:31] And I don't know if you're like me, but anything secretions just like mucus. I'd rather deal with things that come from the other end of the body. So I'm like, yeah, respiratory is not for me.

[00:03:44] So when I was in high school, I was in, I started out in the healthcare program and ever since then, like right when I graduated, I was doing my pre-rex and just jumped right into nursing school and then working at the bedside kind of all over the country.

[00:04:02] And I did that for about five years before I started my nurse like Facebook page and came out with my very first video. So you definitely know our pain at the bedside, but it was so the cool

[00:04:14] thing about you Blake is that like you were like, when you got on social media and you're starting to share your videos and your stories, we're like, I can relate. That's me. Like I totally understand like there's Becky.

[00:04:24] Like we just told him, like we could resonate with that. So just kind of curious, how did you come up with like those characters, those ideas or was it just like a way for you to just let off some steam? Yeah.

[00:04:37] So I actually didn't ever, I never thought I was going to do comedy ever. Like if you were to tell me I was going to do a comedy tour as a nurse, I would be like, you're doing drugs. Like you need to be admitted to the ER.

[00:04:49] Like I would have never believed it ever. And it was really, I was like burnout really one day. I was working in ICU in Houston out of Texas Medical Center and I was driving home and I had like my very first panic attack.

[00:05:00] Like I felt that sense of impending doom. Like I couldn't breathe and I'm like shoot. Like I don't know if nursing is for me anymore. Like I don't know if I could handle it and I was just hired and I'm

[00:05:11] from Florida, but I was working in Texas at the time. So it was kind of lonely and I'm like, I just need like an outlet. I need to connect with others. So I came out with my first video, which was a scrub romper and that went viral

[00:05:23] online and it connected with so many other nurses in a way where it just was able to make them laugh. Like people are like, we're watching your videos during our breaks in the break room. Well, nurses don't get breaks, but you know, we played your video at the

[00:05:34] nurse's station or in the break room and nursing students are like your teacher or professor showed us your video and it made us laugh. So I'm like, you know, I started building this sense of community and these nurses really helped me realize that, you know, humor is okay.

[00:05:48] Humor lets us get through things in that I'm not the only nurse who is struggling with burnout nurses all over the world, you know, face those same issues that I was. So it made me realize that, hey, I am a good nurse.

[00:06:00] You know, what I'm feeling is normal and the environment that that nursing and healthcare was in and is still in and that we're not going to be perfect nurses. We're not going to get it all done within 12 hours. But that's okay.

[00:06:11] You just got to be the best nurse that you can be. And so ever since then I've kept making content and, you know, relating to nurses and all my videos are based on real people. In terms of like classmates, I went to school with my professors.

[00:06:27] I'm making fun of my managers. The nurse Becky is based off one of the managers I've had in the past. So they're all like real stories. My notes app on my phone is going to cause my phone to catch fire because my ideas, I have so many.

[00:06:44] I only record them whenever I'm like in a good mood and they're like, don't have a pimple on my face and I feel inspired. But I have so many ideas that can last like for forever and ever and ever. But they're all real.

[00:06:56] They're all based off experiences that I've had as a nurse. I totally believe that they're real because I think I've experienced many of those same situations, many of my colleagues. So that's what makes it relatable. Like, uh-huh, I work with someone like that. I know someone like that.

[00:07:11] Oh, that's me. That's me right there. I'm going through that. So I think that's what really makes your content resonate with us because we see ourselves in the content and you're able to take the insert some humor like we're wanting to cry in the break room.

[00:07:27] We're not wanting to go to work. We're sick in the car. Like I feel sick. I have a headache. I should just go home. I should have called out. But you know, when we watch her content, it's like, okay, we see

[00:07:37] some humor in it and laughter is the best medicine. So which is great. And I think it totally is naturally your personality. Like even when I first met you and we had breakfast that like, it was just, I could tell like this is him.

[00:07:50] He's like talk, he's like this ball of energy and it's contagious. So I love it. And so Blake, so from nursing to starting to do video content, you've been able to take your knowledge and experience as a nurse and also insert it in other areas.

[00:08:04] I mean, you have been a health advocate advocating for some very important health issues to writing books and things like that. So, I mean, how do you, how did you find time for all of those things? Good question.

[00:08:17] You know, I guess ever since I was like in nursing school, like you were just working all the time. And in addition to going to nursing school, I was also working as a patient care tech on the night shift. I was in the neuro ICU in Orlando.

[00:08:30] I was president of the Florida nursing student association. I was working on getting the FDA to drop their gay blood band. So I've always been able to juggle numerous projects that I'm passionate about and like constantly work on different things. It just keeps me going.

[00:08:45] I just think it's my, I don't know, it just keeps me busy. It keeps me occupied. Maybe because I have like so much anxiety and like underlying trauma that I'm just trying to like keep myself busy. So I don't have to like go there, but it's definitely working.

[00:08:57] And I've just taken that into the world of kind of what I do now as Nurse Blake, you know, in addition to making videos. I do a big comedy tour where I get to see nurses all over. I do have a children's book and it's so funny.

[00:09:11] I've always wanted to write a children's book, but I'm a horrible artist. So an illustrator. So I teamed up with someone who I used to work at Disney with. We were both Peter Pan at the Magic Kingdom in Orlando. I went off to become a nurse.

[00:09:26] He went off to became a very popular children's book writer. So we teamed up after many years after working at Disney together. To write a children's book about growing up, me wanting to be a nurse.

[00:09:38] And we got one coming out of Christmas book coming out later this year. Santa goes to the ER and everything. I know. So I've been working on that too. But even in my children's books, you know, they're still funny, but there's an element of teaching kids something.

[00:09:54] So in the first book, it's about teaching kids like first aid, like what to do, call for help. Then if this makes sure the scene is safe. And the second book we're going to be talking about allergies. Santa's going to have a reaction to shellfish

[00:10:08] and he's going to need to go to the hospital. So it teaches kids about being aware of other people's allergies and what to do. So no matter what I do, even in my comedic videos,

[00:10:18] I still try to bring up serious issues that kind of face nurses on a daily basis, just kind of make it a little funny to keep it interesting and engaging. So, you know, a lot of people may look at me and just say,

[00:10:30] oh, he just does all these random projects or he's just funny. Like no matter what I do, there's always an element of advocacy and a learning lesson and something because more than comedy, I love advocacy. That may surprise a lot of people, but that's what really drives me.

[00:10:46] And I'm just able to advocate in a humorous way, which kind of spreads the message to more people through humor. And I think that just that just puts a lot more eyes on things I'm trying to advocate for. Laughter is also universal language, right?

[00:11:01] And any regardless of what language you speak, when someone laughs, you know, there's like a common theme to that. And I love it because there's so much health information and educate others. It's boring and dry.

[00:11:11] And I mean, we say it all the time, like, when we're doing our health strength, right, click, click, click, this is boring or we see the pamphlets, they're boring. So to be able to it's almost like

[00:11:20] and it's an addition and complement to health literacy, saying things in a way that people can understand. But then also inserting some universal language in there to make the feel comfortable, welcoming, opening, like people learn so many different ways. So I commend you on that and especially children.

[00:11:35] We want to, you know, kids are developing their identities at such early ages. I think even younger now, they probably come out like that. And so that's cool. I love that. I can't wait to see that book. And you mentioned advocacy.

[00:11:47] So you're doing advocacy in all these different ways. Advocacy as far as teaching, you know, important health information to the kids and other things like that. But you're also advocating for nurses. You also advocate for nurses and you have created such a great community

[00:12:01] and opportunities for nurses to network. So like you've previously done a tour, you have your nurse con, like tell us a little bit more about those things and like where the idea came from and where you are today.

[00:12:13] Yeah. So when I first started nursing school, I wasn't involved at all. I was so focused on like graduating and passing the NCLEX. And then I went to go donate blood for one of my friends,

[00:12:23] who is one of my peers in classmates, but got turned away for being gay. And that kind of lit a little spark in me that says, you know, nursing school and nursing is more than just reading a textbook. Like it's really making an impact on your community.

[00:12:36] And by me, just for my sexuality, not being able to donate blood, that has an impact on my community. So I started a campaign called Ban For Life where we wanted to get the FDA to end the lifetime ban, which after many years later,

[00:12:47] the lifetime ban is now lifted. And that really just pinned my eye on the importance of advocacy. And there's so much more to nursing than just, you know, clicking boxes and doing your documentation. Right. So through that, I became very interested.

[00:13:02] I became president of the Florida Nursing Student Association. And through that, I was able to attend a lot of nursing conferences. And let me tell you, they are all so boring for the most part. Like it's the same, the education is basic.

[00:13:17] They're all in these big boring convention halls. They're very expensive. You got to pay for your food and your hotels. And so ever since 10 years ago, I've known I wanted to shake up the nursing conferences, but I didn't know what that looked like.

[00:13:31] And then once I became a nurse and started a nurse Blake and working with nurse.org and hosting nurse nights at the baseball games. I learned like nurses want to come out like nurses want to come together not only online, but like in person.

[00:13:44] And so I said, oh my gosh, maybe I should just start a nursing conference. And I'm like, where am I going to have this nursing conference? I can't just call like the city of Austin and be like, hey, I want to have a nursing conference here.

[00:13:54] And I'm like, you know, growing up in Florida, I had grown up going on cruises like on the weekends. You could just get a last minute cruise really cheap. So I'm like, cruises are so much fun. They're the perfect venue to have a conference.

[00:14:05] I'm going to hold a conference on a cruise ship. So I decided to call it nurse kind at sea. We have done three conferences so far. All of them pretty much sell out really, really fast. We have the whole ship.

[00:14:18] We fill it with thousands of nurses around three throughout thousand nurses. I have a team about 90 people that I manage alone for a nurse con at sea. So over 20 educators, I have two full time doctors of nurse practice,

[00:14:36] nursing practice, DMPs that actually run the education for nurse kind of sea that I manage production dancers entertainers. So I want to give nurses the experience that they deserve education. For example, I went to a nursing school in Florida. I'm from Florida, the public school system in Florida,

[00:14:57] which isn't very good. So basically I'm not that smart. So even when it comes to like nursing education, I like to break things down and make it relatable and make it practical. And that's what I strive for a nurse con at sea education.

[00:15:13] People, nurses from all over the world attend nurse con at sea from Australia and Canada and New Zealand. All different ages. You'll have a 20 year old nurse dancing on the dance floor at one of our theme nights with a 70 year old nurse having a great time.

[00:15:31] You'll have nursing students dancing with a CNO. Like the community of nurses have made nurse con at sea so special. Like I only provide the venue and some entertainment, some DJs and educators. It's the people that attend nurse con at sea that make it so, so special.

[00:15:50] I'm just so impressed with the diversity, the inclusivity that has happened organically around nurse con at sea. So I couldn't be more proud and thankful for the people and attendees for making nurse con at sea. Really, it's the ultimate nursing conference.

[00:16:04] If I need to get you on the ship, Alice, you would freak in. I do have the best time ever. I got your room. So I got you a state room on the ship. No, are there still other seats for the next nurse con? Are we sold out?

[00:16:18] Like, do we still we're already 80% sold out? And we just went on sale like a week ago. So there are only a few rooms left. OK, guys, so that means you better get your tickets ASAP

[00:16:29] or you're going to be out and have to wait till the following year. Epic. Now, it's pretty epic. So that's amazing. It's the next level of nursing conferences, which, by the way, I agree 100 percent that they need to switch up because some of these things are just boring.

[00:16:43] Stay on sale. I love that. And then in addition to that, you're also going on tour like this comedy tour. I'm like, oh, my gosh, Blake is doing like shock and vice. So I love the name because that's really cute.

[00:16:56] Sometimes I feel like I need a shock and vice before I go to work. I'm like, really? Yeah, shock and vice. OK, so something like you got to tell us because there's so many people who are listening like

[00:17:06] fascinated with how you've been able to work as a nurse, care for other people and still deliver care for people in different ways and follow like your passion. Because I think that's what makes work not feel like work.

[00:17:19] You're doing what you love, doing it in a way that you love. So first, tell us about the tour and how did it come up? How did you get there? Like, that's amazing, by the way. It just is a lot of work and it's so funny because

[00:17:35] I number one, I'm a nurse at the end of the day. I make funny videos online. It's still hard to believe that I have like I have one of the top comedy tours in the country this year

[00:17:47] and one of the top just tours in general and number of dates. I'm hitting over 100 cities in five and a half months. So I'm going to be living on a tour bus and the only reason why I do it is number one, I do love it.

[00:18:02] But I just love seeing the nurses laugh and come out together. It just makes me so happy. And if nurses will come out to my tour, I will put on a show for them. One that in my shows like over 90 minutes.

[00:18:13] It's so much fun when I do go to a new venue that I haven't toured before, they think it's going to be like a TED talk. And then after the show, they're like, holy, like it is so loud. Like it's a rock concert.

[00:18:27] These nurses are ready to have a good time. They come in party buses, like groups of like 30 nurses will come out, like a whole unit will come, like people will fly in people. And you have like 30 nurses on a unit just able to have a great time together.

[00:18:42] You'll have like three generations of nurses come. You have the son who's in nursing school, the mom who's a nurse, the retired grandma who's a nurse. So you just bring these families out and together. You'll have groups of like nursing students

[00:18:55] who graduated nursing school 10 years ago, then they all separated, but they come together for the show. It's just really special in that way. But I started doing shows in 2019. I did like five little talks at nursing colleges

[00:19:09] and I sold like tickets on Eventbrite and they like sold out. So I'm like, oh my gosh, like maybe I should just do more. So then I did 10. And then before I know it, I was doing like 55 and those sold out.

[00:19:21] So now I'm doing 100 and that only includes US and Canada. That doesn't include my Australia and Europe leg that I'm going to be announcing soon. Wow, like international. I don't think of it. Yeah, I actually end. I'm going to be ending up at the Sydney Opera House. Wow.

[00:19:42] Yeah. I love it. So and like what you were saying, laughter is universal. It's so cool that a joke will land here in North Carolina and that same joke will land in Sydney, Australia or in Toronto, Canada.

[00:19:56] Like we all go through the same things like you are not alone. So when you do feel like you're the only one missing a bladder scanner, like you are not like we are all missing bladder scanners.

[00:20:07] Listen, the bladder scanner, like you got to I need I need a piece of hair. I need a thumbprint. I need you to leave a deposit because here. Yes, exactly. Yes, you got it. And why don't we have one like why are we at the share from different

[00:20:23] ones? I don't understand. Right. It makes no sense to me. I don't even know. Not that much like a few hundred bucks. I bet. Yeah, like hello like the doctor's lounge. Hello. Oh, I know.

[00:20:35] You got listen, you got all these like like why do we have all these brand new chairs that nobody sitting in because we're running around can't sit down but we don't got a bladder scanner. Right. We don't make it make sense. Thank you. It doesn't make sense.

[00:20:47] And these are all things that I talk about during my show. It is called shock advice. So if you come to my show thinking you're going to get C&E's, you are not.

[00:20:56] It is a comedy tour and you will you are going to be shocked and you are going to laugh like you've never laughed before. And I'm going to say all the things that every nurse has thought in their head, but they haven't said it.

[00:21:10] So we couldn't say it in the break. Yes. It's going to it's going to go so we can channel 10 out of 10. Yes, 10 out of 10. I love it. So I mean, it totally creates community where you want to be a part of it.

[00:21:24] And when somebody gets you like they get you like that becomes your tribe. That becomes your crew and it's like this connection. Like we don't have the same thing like something happened. But we just did you see like our eyes can say, are you see that?

[00:21:35] Did you see that? My language. Yeah. So I love it. When does it kick off in? Yeah. When does it start and when does it end? And where do we go for tickets and things like that? Yeah. So my tour actually kicks off.

[00:21:46] I've never been to Alaska, so it kicks off in Anchorage, Alaska on July 25th. And it runs this leg of the tour runs through December 22nd. It ends in Hawaii, Honolulu. And then I will be announcing soon Australia and hopefully Europe sooner rather than

[00:22:04] later and those will be next year. But you can get your tickets right now at nurse Blake.com. If you haven't got your ticket yet, a lot of the shows are either sold out or low inventory.

[00:22:13] So definitely check out and get your tickets sooner rather than later and only get your tickets at nurse Blake.com. Otherwise you'll go to third party sites and those are not the actual prices. I definitely try to keep my prices really low and affordable even for nursing broke

[00:22:28] nursing students can even come out to my show and not pay so much money. So make sure you get your tickets through nurse Blake.com. I love it. And you know, it's good to see that you're growing and doing the thing that you want to do.

[00:22:42] I can tell you're passionate about it. Now I just have to ask this one question. Do you miss the bedside? I miss the camaraderie and the teamwork. I miss like I'm a people person.

[00:22:53] So even though you know I do run a team for nurse kind of see in other projects that I do everyone's pretty independent and they kind of like have their own project. But I just do miss going to work and like having your team and your people.

[00:23:07] And you know, so I do I do miss that aspect of it. Do I miss working short staff? Absolutely not. But there's some days where I'm just like, I just want to wake up and

[00:23:16] clock into work and you know care for patients because again Alice like I got into nursing to work in a hospital. I never ever thought that I would be running such a large nursing conference and also touring and making content and doing all these other things.

[00:23:33] So so it is really special, but I think it just is a tribute to if you keep your mind and heart open, nursing is going to take you on such a cool journey that you could never have expected.

[00:23:45] And I think that's what's so cool about the nursing profession is it can provide you so many different routes if you just keep your mind open. I agree with that. And I love it.

[00:23:56] Now I'm gonna say the last couple of shifts I had, I would not miss it. I would be totally OK with going and going on break for like a year or so from nursing because short staff, irate patients, broken equipment, just a lot of stuff.

[00:24:11] It's like I'm only one person. I literally cannot do these 12 20 things. You want me to do it one time? But I get it. Like I do. I love my colleagues. Like we're what keep each other afloat, you know, supporting each other.

[00:24:23] And then we kind of we band together with all the nonsense. We're like, girl, do you see this? Dumbness like why is this happening? But that's right. You're right. There are so many things you can do in nursing. Yeah.

[00:24:35] And I do get that imposter syndrome a little bit where it's like, am I even a nurse if I don't work in a hospital? You know, but yet I run and manage like such a large nursing conference and these amazing educators like and even though I'm not,

[00:24:50] you know, putting my hands on a patient, I hope that I'm able to help these nurses, you know, that are that are caring for patients at the bedside. So I do kind of feel that a little bit, but I'm kind of getting over

[00:25:03] that and realizing that no, I am still a nurse. You know, I still have an impact on my community. It's just not their traditional way that we're taught in nursing school because teachers and nursing schools just prepare you to work in a hospital.

[00:25:17] They don't tell you all the other cool things that you can do as a nurse to also make that same if not greater impact on the lives of patients. Absolutely. And I think the growth, like, especially since the pandemic,

[00:25:28] a lot of nurses are finding their ways that they can do other things from just directly at the bedside. Great entry point. We love taking care of people, but you can care for people in so many different ways, whether it's through a product, a service, coaching, teaching,

[00:25:41] like there's technology, so many different things. But you are still a nurse. Absolutely told. None of that imposter syndrome. Although we've probably been there too, because I have to tell myself that story too, but it's amazing to see you.

[00:25:54] I were so proud to see you in this kind of in this world of Hollywood as a nurse doing this work. I mean, you know, and I'll be honest, like I have my favorite comedians and stuff till I'm like, you know, nurse Blake, though, he's a nurse.

[00:26:07] He's a nurse like others. I take pride in claiming that. So really excited to see your journey. I'm coming to your show when you come to LA. Yay, I got you. I got you back to the passes, girl. Listen, I love it. Thank you so much.

[00:26:25] We hang out. Guys, you know what? This has been such a great interview. I mean, Blake is really busy. Has lots going on and he's taken the time to talk with us today to talk about his journey and just kind of share some things that's going on

[00:26:38] because we see him, we watch him a lot. But to be able to have this kind of dialogue and like jump into his brain, hear what he's thinking and like hear it in that sense. We really appreciate that, Blake.

[00:26:46] We thank you so much for being a role model in the world, really showing, you know, another side of nursing, what we're capable of and just bringing laughter to us because child, we want to cry in the hospital and at the bedside.

[00:27:00] So I hope you don't miss that part. We're crying for you. Just so you know, before we let you go. So I need to run down a couple of things because everybody's going to be wanting to know.

[00:27:11] So for the shock advice tour, go to nurseblade.com by your tickets there. And then for nurse com, do we go to nurseblade.com as well? Yeah, you could pretty much get anywhere from nurseblade.com, but you can also check out nurseconnetsy.com and you could register there.

[00:27:28] We also have monthly payment options available. So I know what we get paid. I know what nurses get paid. So if you can't pay in full, that is fine. You could pay over monthly installments. So we got you covered there too. So nurseconnetsy.com. Wonderful.

[00:27:42] And then there's a Christmas book that's coming out too, right? Oh yeah. That's right. There's a Christmas book that you can get. You could get my Christmas book on Amazon or nurseblade.com. I also have a new shoe, the Pro Line with Gales.

[00:27:56] You can get my new shoe. It's so freaking comfortable. Let me tell you. And people always ask me like, what's the most comfortable shoe? And I haven't really been able to tell them anything. So then when Gales reach out to me, I'm like, let's make like the most

[00:28:09] comfortable shoe. So you could get that at weargales.com. I love it. Thanks, Alex. Oh, I love it. It's awesome. And to all the listeners, thank you guys so much. Love you guys so much. Thanks for all your support. And I hope to see you one day. Awesome.

[00:28:20] Thank you so much, Blake, for joining us. Guys, this has been another great interview with the Nurse Blake. Make sure to go to the website, check out all of his stuff. We got to support our nurses and he's doing amazing things, guys. Like totally.

[00:28:31] You're going to enjoy his show. You're going to enjoy his content. Make sure to follow Blake. And, you know, shout out to nurse.org for hosting the podcast about them. This wouldn't be possible. And guys, thanks for supporting me as well, Alice.

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