Nurse Entrepreneur Creates Resources to Help Nursing Students Succeed (with Kristine Tuttle, Nurse In The Making)

[00:00:00] Nurse.com is proud to be a sponsor of the Ask Nurse Alice podcast. As the premier destination for nursing knowledge and resources, Nurse.com supports your passion for healthcare with an unrivaled collection of tools, articles, and courses tailored for the nursing community.

[00:00:15] Get your daily dose of things you need to know for your nursing journey. Discover the world of nursing like never before with Nurse.com. Empower your practice, advance your career, and enrich your knowledge. Nurse.com. It's your nurse life all in one place.

[00:00:29] You're listening to Ask Nurse Alice, presented by Nurse.org, where Alice Benjamin combines no nonsense advice with thought-provoking interviews. Hello friends and welcome to the Ask Nurse Alice podcast, the show where we talk about anything and everything nursing and healthcare related.

[00:00:55] I'm your host, Alice Benjamin, Clinical Nurse Specialist, Family Nurse Practitioner, and Chief Nursing Officer at Nurse.org. Now, I got a treat for you guys, especially for my nursing students and aspiring nursing students because I know we get on here, we talk a lot about

[00:01:08] practice profession and you're probably like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I'm not there yet. I'm just, I want to become a nurse. I'm trying to get there. So this episode is actually dedicated to my nursing students. We have an amazing guest who's joining us. She's going to

[00:01:22] talk about some of the wonderful and amazing things that she's working on that, believe me, you want to know about. So I want you to please welcome to the show Christine Tuttle. She is a registered nurse and she is the owner and founder of nurses in the making.

[00:01:34] So Christine, welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm excited to be here. So you're a nurse, I'm a nurse, and we get lost in the sauce with practice, but and sometimes we can forget what it's like to be a nursing student. So that's why I'm so glad

[00:01:47] that you're on the show because we want to show love to all our nursing students, our aspiring nursing students, and I'll be honest, I checked out your stuff. There are probably some practicing nurses who need to check out your stuff and do some self-review.

[00:01:58] So before we get there, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and your journey into nursing and nursing education more specifically? Sure. Yeah. It's funny that you say that because a lot of nurses reach out to me and they're like,

[00:02:09] I love like going to your page because it's just a refresh for them. Like everybody needs a refresh sometimes. So yeah. So my name is Christine Tuttle. I started nursing the making probably three years ago while I was in school. So my journey into nursing school was

[00:02:23] a little bit different. So I had applied to nursing school and I got denied, which obviously my head I'm thinking like I applied. I feel like a good candidate like, okay. So I did not expect that

[00:02:38] and that obviously was me being naive, but I didn't get accepted. I remember walking into my advisor's office with like crying, ugly tears, ugly boogers everywhere. And I'm just like,

[00:02:49] like my life is over. Like what's happening? I'm never going to be a nurse. And so we kind of walk through the steps and he said it makes sense for you to get another bachelor's and then

[00:02:57] apply to an accelerated program. So I ended up getting my bachelor's in nutrition and then applying to multiple accelerated programs this time. I was like, I'm going to apply to a lot of different places. So I have lots of options and I ended up getting into,

[00:03:10] I think like 90% of them. And so I decided to go to the University of Tennessee for my accelerated program. Yeah, so it's kind of my journey into nursing school. And I think it relates with a lot

[00:03:19] of students because it's not your traditional like I applied and I got in and a lot of people need to apply to multiple places and to multiple times. And that's completely normal. So I think a lot

[00:03:30] of people relate with that story. I almost want to say like what's normal now? Like ever since the pandemic is like the new norm. And even like with myself, and I've shared this

[00:03:39] story on nurse.org, I started off as like a CNA did an LVN program to the Aran Bridge associates. Like I kind of like stair stack my way into the career because it was difficult to get into the

[00:03:50] waiting list was so long to go from like just everyday student wanting to be a nurse to a bachelor's program. And so but it's actually kind of great that there's so many different options at entry points because people have different things going on in their lives.

[00:04:05] And so I have to say nutrition, that's actually really good because that's I don't know, but I think that's a weak point for nurses quite honestly. Because we'll say oh cardiac diet, diabetic diet, but then if you have someone with cardiac nephro issues and then they have cancer,

[00:04:19] you're like, Oh, whoa, hold on, wait a minute, that's a little too mixed up there. So I imagine that's like a great addition to being a nurse. So nutrition degree. And then you get into accelerated program and you're a nursing school. How was your journey in nursing school

[00:04:36] once you were in it? The last two years of my bachelor's nutrition, I had a 4.0. So I was like nursing school, like I'm gonna be fine. And like, you know, it's it's can't be that hard,

[00:04:48] like in my head because I had a 4.0. You know, I've heard him was hard, but I was like, I'm fine. So I said, you know, everyone kind of the first day of the class or kind of like

[00:04:57] looking around and you're thinking like, you know, who's going to be like the best student. It's so competitive. And I talk about that so much how it just all of a sudden you walk in and there's

[00:05:06] this like competitive atmosphere when you're not competing against each other, you really should be working with each other. So I remember thinking like, okay, like I really want to be the top of the class. And I just always have that in my head and fundamentals, we started to

[00:05:20] take fundamentals. And I was like, quickly realized two months in, I am just going to try to pass like that's my new goal. The new goal in nursing school is just pass. And it was really hard. It was

[00:05:31] really, really hard because you're really learning how to study all over again, because nursing school is so much different. The exams are way different than we've all probably taken in our pre recs and previous bachelor's. So yeah, it was it was really difficult. It took me a

[00:05:46] long time to figure it out and to navigate through the different study methods and clinicals and how to manage it all. And my program was 11 months, which was like, I would not suggest that

[00:05:58] most of them typically accelerated are like 15 to 18 months. So that's more normal. So I had med surge in one semester, which normally it's broken into broken into two semesters. So it was really difficult. And I struggled a lot, which I think, again, why people relate to

[00:06:14] nurse making and restore because I am not saying like, I got all A's and I passed the end credits with 75 questions. I'm like, no, I struggled and it's normal to struggle. Like most nursing students, even though they don't usually admit it fail an exam or two, and

[00:06:29] doesn't mean you're a bad nurse. It doesn't mean you're about student. And it doesn't mean you're trying like you're not trying. So yeah, it was it was definitely difficult. Oh my gosh,

[00:06:37] difficult is like an is the nice way to say it. It's like a whole new world, whole new world. And like, I myself, I'm like, got this, I, you know, I did pretty good with my other

[00:06:48] classes. And you know, with exception of pathophys guys, I've told my story about pathophys, I took it three times. Gosh, that's hard. But I was like, I conquered it. I'm good at my

[00:06:56] highlighters and you know, no taken and I got this. It was literally a whole new world having to learn like the medical terminology is a whole nother language guys. Okay, a whole nother language. And then like you said, navigating the clinicals with the theory

[00:07:11] and then the lab except it's like, wait a minute, I thought class was Monday through Friday or Monday, Wednesday, Friday. What do you mean I have clinicals Tuesday from two to 10? Like you have to be so flexible. And those books, yes, I went to school in a time

[00:07:25] where we had actual books, we didn't have the online books guys are just so y'all know. And it was just really hard. And I remember struggling. I failed a couple exams. I almost failed a nursing class, which would have required me to have to retake it. My stress

[00:07:42] level was on 1000. I would come home and I would like cry. So I literally cry sometimes because I'm like, why can't I get this? Why is it so hard? Like, this can't be that hard. Like

[00:07:52] there are people practicing. I've there. How did they learn this? What's the trick? What's the tip? What's the tools that I need to get this because these highlighters are not getting it. These little notes are not getting at least the ones I was making. Yeah, I tell them

[00:08:05] all the time of I think I needed like a 93 on my med search final to pass that class. Because like you said, if you fail it, you pretty much have to kind of like

[00:08:15] wait a year and it's a whole process. And I vividly remember walking out of my last exam before the final exam getting on the phone with my dad in the car because my husband was working

[00:08:25] and like crying and being like, I'm not even going to show up to the final exam because there's no way I'm going to pass. He was like, you've come this far just try. And so

[00:08:33] it is like one of those moments where you're like, okay, I know people can do this because there are like, what millions of nurses the United States. So like in kind of feel alone,

[00:08:43] like am I the only one who feels like this and and it's important to like kind of bring light to it's okay to struggle. And honestly, like if you weren't to struggle, you're not really

[00:08:53] learning. So in those struggles, you learn so much, I feel like to be a better nurse to be a better learner. So I've yeah, there's definitely pros to the struggles that I tried to tell students that like you're getting stronger. Right. Yeah. And I also feel like

[00:09:08] well guys, it took me a moment like I had to hit like a really rock bottom low almost fail class to be like, okay, I need a system. I need to figure this out.

[00:09:18] So I can stay on top of it because once you get behind on something or you don't understand something, don't think that you're only going to push through and just overlook that because no, that's it's still going to pop up. So

[00:09:29] Christina, I kind of want to segue into some of the services and the tools and things that you offer because right now we're talking about struggling nurses and I know there are people

[00:09:39] listening like, oh, that's me turn it up, turn it up, that's me like they're describing me. So what is the program? What is the tools? What what can I do and what do I need that will help me to be more successful in nursing school so I can

[00:09:53] A, learn the information and then to pass those damn tests and ultimately pass the NCLEX because that's really doesn't matter if you got you know, 80 85 90 doesn't matter as long as you

[00:10:05] pass the NCLEX you're still a nurse. Yeah. So we can I talk about how I started it and that's kind of what we'd love to because really what I did was I started the business for me

[00:10:16] and my friends like it was never intended for for the world. So I like I said, I was really struggling and the reason I was struggling is I remember seeing the top eight

[00:10:25] student class and I asked him like how how are you passing and he's like, I'm just reading the textbook to find out later. He had like a photogenic memory and I was like, okay, that's not me.

[00:10:35] So I opened up my textbook and like, I'm just going to read it. And so I'm trying to read it and not retaining anything. And me and my friends were like we need to find a better

[00:10:44] way. So what I started to do is make charts kind of like to walk me through the like the need to know information like only the core things. No, no, no, no, nothing from the textbook

[00:10:55] that doesn't need to be too scientific just the core nursing content. So I started to make that and I started to hand it out to my study groups and we are great started to really go up and

[00:11:05] we were just I love memory tricks and we we made the funniest and the stupidest memory tricks but they really help because when you're on exam you remember them so I remember just kind

[00:11:16] of following this new like, okay, I'm not going to study the way that I see other people. I'm going to do what works for me which is to take the fluff out of the PowerPoints and textbooks

[00:11:24] that way when I'm studying for exam I look at one thing and it's simplified and easy and the core content so I started handing out my friends and you should sell this online and I'm like,

[00:11:34] okay, sure. And so you know, I put it online on Etsy specifically and yeah, so it was more like a slow process people were buying here and there and then COVID happened so COVID happened

[00:11:46] three months into my program. So the last three months, we were like wearing masks at clinicals and things were like, okay, something's going on. We were online. I took my final exams online and during that time students, you know, it wasn't anyone's call but wasn't a professor's

[00:12:01] fault. It just is really hard to learn on video call like that. Students were like, I need help like help me. So that's when really it started to take off because people were needing

[00:12:12] resources and during so COVID it took me a long time to take my NCLEX. So I think I ended up waiting goodness like five months. So during that time, I was making a ton more study guides

[00:12:24] while it was actually helping me study for the NCLEX and then just creating more content. And yeah, it just really it was like a slow process every time I want to make more things

[00:12:32] someone request a new topic and yeah, so really it really took off from there. So what we offer is basically study guides for every single class. So we have like a study guide for mother baby,

[00:12:44] men's search, pharmacology, a lot of students they just might buy a study guide that they're struggling for. They're like, just give me everything. So we have the which way you can see it there. It's called the complete nursing school bundle and it basically is like the cliff

[00:12:57] note version of everything you need to know for nursing school or your nursing content. And then I was getting a lot of requests for flashcards. So we have flashcards for like every single topic. So we have flashcards for pediatrics and mother baby, they're like really fun memory

[00:13:11] tricks and it's not like overwhelming. And it's crazy because the feedback we've gotten has been like, these are actually helping it's a weird thing because I was like, I was just three years ago, like a failing nursing student and like my fun little guys are now helping people

[00:13:26] actually pass their classes and like giving them the confidence to do it. And just to try to make it so basically our other slow like slogan is like nursing school without the flow because

[00:13:36] there is so much and especially for an accelerated program, I felt like how am I supposed to know this giant in this short amount of time. And of course, it's still important to read your

[00:13:47] textbook but when you feel like you're losing your mind and overwhelms and like it just went through one in here and out the other, it's important to have like a place where you can go

[00:13:56] and say, okay, this is the core content. So yeah, we also have a lot of free guides like we have free study guides I do a question every morning on my Instagram which like the students love they

[00:14:06] love guessing and it tells them if they got it wrong or right and yeah with like rationales. So yeah, we try to have a lot of free resources but also paid resources as well. Now, Christine, you mentioned like reading the textbook. Those textbooks are like this thick

[00:14:22] so many words on the page and I don't know about you but I get anxiety when I even now today like and I'm already in advanced practice nurse times to I'm like I open up something and I'm like

[00:14:32] the first thing is too many words on the page and I immediately immediately get anxiety frustrated like I'm like, oh my gosh, what is important what's not important and like I'm scanning and I'm like I'm reading and then sometimes I have to read it over and over

[00:14:45] again because I think my anxiety is interfering with my ability to interpret it. Yes guys, I'm letting y'all know that yes out nurse house gets anxiety when I there's too many words on a page. So I love

[00:14:54] seeing pictures and charts because it's like okay like you said take the fluff out what is that what do I need to know ABC just boom spill it out right there. So those are really helpful

[00:15:04] and then yes go back and read your textbook so once you understand those core concepts you can go back and then add the other pieces to it to edify yourself so I think that's

[00:15:13] really helpful. And we have a foundation that you laid you're not just coming in blind reading like all these you know this word so like you said sometimes you read it and you're

[00:15:21] just too focused on like I'm so overwhelmed that you're not reading anything. I have read stuff like three four times I'm like what are they saying just say it because I'm not getting it so and then obviously you guys know there's people who write these books are like

[00:15:36] have like the alphabet times two behind their names so they think that's regular normal language and it's not it's not it's okay guys it's normal it is normal to feel this way that's why

[00:15:46] we're so glad we had Christine also we could kind of talk about this and just help you understand that it is okay to experience and feel this anxiety while you're in nursing school which by the way

[00:15:57] can interfere with your ability to comprehend retain information which is why these tools are so helpful. So I've seen some of your some of your work and I've also seen your videos

[00:16:08] like you have the like this great YouTube page also with videos you got your nursing bundle and things that you can purchase you got these videos guys this is like your one-stop shop like on your

[00:16:19] syllabus where it says like tools that you need like okay this book that book and then they cut you know I think this is something that needs to be like a requirement not an optional a requirement

[00:16:28] to be successful in nursing school because it'll I think admit it'll make you feel a lot more at ease. Christine let me ask this because we're talking about nursing students in nursing you know nursing school I know they appreciate this conversation since the pandemic especially

[00:16:40] learning online more stimulation less patient care like so many different things are changing even the NCLEX is changing what do you think are some of the biggest challenges for nursing students these days? Yeah well I think for me I feel like three things come to mind definitely

[00:16:58] the newness of it all like I had talked about you go through your pre-rex and you you know you feel like you're ready and then you walk into a new environment with new learning

[00:17:08] new exam questions you're also like you said you have to be on clinicals this day and simulation and lab and and you're really trying to like in your pre-rex you're like okay I've

[00:17:18] learned to juggle all of the stuff and then nursing school comes you're like oh my gosh I am so bad at time management and so it's a really new environment that students have to try to

[00:17:29] manage and juggle while learning all of this content so that is definitely I find was the hardest thing for me and then also learning what works like I had talked about it's

[00:17:38] so easy to look at other people and say like what works for you which is it's good to ask and share each other's knowledge but it can be a really a frustrating trial and error

[00:17:49] to figure out what works for you in terms of studying and time management and even like like having your mental stability be okay during it all and I mean it's it's you're learning a lot

[00:18:01] and it's really individualized to you um and students I think a lot of time compare and that's the third one is compare that is it's so hard and I don't know why and I'm trying to be such an

[00:18:13] advocate for like you're not competing against each other you're working with each other like these are the people you're going to be side by side in the field on the bedside like

[00:18:22] who needs to be these people's friends like these are your best buddies that you're going to go through life with and you're all on the same page you all have the same goal like obviously

[00:18:31] you all want to be nurses you take care of patients and so I'm just like oh it's so competitive but it is still no matter what because we're human and we want to we want to compete we want to

[00:18:41] be the best and it can be really kind of a hostile environment sometimes for definitely like just nursing students it's really difficult so that would be the the biggest challenges for sure you guys comparison kills I'm telling you I mean we're already still dealing with like nurses

[00:18:57] eat their young type of thing when you're in clinical let's not kind of start those vibes or plant those seeds in nursing school by competing against each other and I'll say this I'm I'm I recall

[00:19:08] times where like there would be different study groups and they wouldn't want to share their notes they wouldn't want to share their tools like guys when I win you and like let's collaborate

[00:19:16] because like you said this is that's actually the best time to kind of foster I don't want to like yeah teamwork in a disciplinary interdisciplinary we're not necessarily nurses yet but you know kind of practice working with other people communicating learning different things because

[00:19:31] you know no one knows it all no one knows it all and although you might feel like oh you know I got this great system I bet you there's someone else with a better system or an easier system so

[00:19:41] collaboration is is something that we really I'm seeing I collaborating while you're taking your test that's something different but collaborating when you're studying I think that's really helpful there was I would love this I loved listening to although I did participate in

[00:19:55] my in my study groups I wasn't a slacker but listening to other way other people would say things or like oh okay that I remember that so it's really super helpful to help it's so absolutely yeah and it's it's really like if you're being competitive in nursing school

[00:20:11] you don't want to bring an attitude to the field because you need help like although you're caring for your patients like there will be definitely moments you need help from another

[00:20:20] nurse and so it's and I always tell students to like you are the future like you don't have to have that mindset of like nurses eat their young and like one day you're going to be that season's nurse

[00:20:30] who has you know a new grad under under their belt so like you know be the change like it does have to be competitive so I always try to advocate because it is so important like you said and Christine you also mentioned that you have nurses practicing nurses

[00:20:44] who are also looking at your tools so guys I know we were kind of focused on nursing students but even for even when you're you know what doesn't matter where you are in your nursing career

[00:20:53] where you're a new grad you've been practicing for two or three years or you've been a nurse for a season nurse for I don't know 15 years we don't always remember all the fine details about

[00:21:04] certain things I was actually watching Christine's videos on some of the medications I was like oh yeah I forgot about that but you know I have a general idea what the medications for but

[00:21:14] which video was it I was watching the video on anti acid because you know I'm always just saying anti-acid but I had forgot the way in which to remember how to identify

[00:21:25] anti-acids and look I probably can't even say it here because I like you know there are levels to learning at levels where you can hear it read it and see it and understand it but then

[00:21:34] there's another level where you can actually explain it to someone else so but anyways I was watching your videos I'm like oh this is good okay and it was like three minutes and I

[00:21:41] was like perfect just enough time to kind of like couple sips of coffee watch this and then be on to the next thing what are the responses you get from people who who purchase your stuff

[00:21:52] yeah the feedback has been great and I think it just hit me like a month ago so I went to the NSNA the national student nursing association in Nashville's like this national convention

[00:22:03] and that was the first time I kind of came in contact with like thousands of students so there was I think 1200 students now including like professors and the other booths that were there

[00:22:12] in that feedback I was like oh my gosh like people are actually using this like they're actually like studying with it and they were pulling out the books on the flashcards and they're like look I

[00:22:21] brought it with me to study on the plane and and it's been really rewarding so the feedback has been like just amazing and it's so rewarding to do it and just trying to continually like

[00:22:32] meet the needs of the students what are you struggling with what new products can I make and yeah so that that convention was the first time I was like oh my gosh like this is kind of

[00:22:40] like bigger than me and it was really really cool so the feedback has been has been absolutely amazing so glad that you're getting that feedback because many nurse entrepreneurs when they venture on to do

[00:22:52] things maybe that are like outside of bedside nursing because we're all trained to you know be bedside nurses and yes many of us will work there but sometimes you know not all of us will

[00:23:00] stay there or we want to do multiple things but when you venture out away from that bedside almost you feel kind of naked sometimes like oh my gosh how's it going am I doing okay like because

[00:23:10] we didn't get this in in in nursing school so as a nurse entrepreneur because we have a lot of people who aspire to you know have businesses and services and things outside of traditional

[00:23:21] nursing any tips or our suggestions for people who are who are toying with that idea? Sure yeah um for me definitely consistency was a huge part of it I think people expect to be

[00:23:34] like a one hit wonder when they're doing you know their their new business venture but it's it's kind of like nursing school too like you have to find what works and you got to be consistent

[00:23:43] with it and you got to you know push through the the difficult times so yeah definitely consistency finding I always say I was doing a little bit of a business seminar in Africa actually

[00:23:55] was crazy last summer and I said it was basically I was having a problem so let's say you see a problem in the nursing field or anywhere and you have a solution for it

[00:24:06] you meet then in the middle you just made yourself a business so if you see a problem in nursing and you have a solution to it that is an absolutely amazing business so some of the

[00:24:15] most amazing businesses that nurses can come up with is like meeting a need and fixing a problem in the system for me I was like okay there's really nothing that condenses the information

[00:24:26] in a really aesthetically pleasing way so I was like I'm gonna do it so that would be my biggest piece of advice is really to try to to find like fill a need that's that nursing nursing students

[00:24:37] have nurses any really anybody has so right and I'm just gonna add one or the other thing in there because it's totally I totally felt the vibes as you were talking be passionate about

[00:24:46] it guys totally be passionate about it because I could as Christine was talking I you know and this was something she was helping to solve a problem and she was passionate about it I mean

[00:24:56] she was really passionate about I could just totally tell so I think that goes a long way because nurses we like caring for people we like solving problems and especially if it's

[00:25:06] something that hits home for us oh we're we're gonna hit the pavement we're gonna you know work hard because it is work guys it is work it's a different type of work than you know giving

[00:25:16] those meds every six hours take a check and blood sugar is like once you've kind of become once you've become a nurse and you get used to that routine you get used to that so becoming an entrepreneur

[00:25:26] you're your own boss there's no one to tell you what to do when to do it so hopefully it's something you're really passionate about because that's gonna that's gonna be the fire that drives

[00:25:36] you to work and Christine has done an amazing job at creating you know creating all these tools you guys you have to visit our website watch your YouTube um Christine before we let you go

[00:25:45] tell us more about where people can go to purchase your products sure yeah so well I have an Instagram named nurse in the making we do a ton of like I said free resources on there but you can find me on Etsy

[00:25:57] um nurse in the making as the shop name you can also find me at um a nurse in the making dot com so lots of if you basically just google nurse in the making you'll you'll find our

[00:26:05] product said wonderful wonderful I get to talk to some amazing nurses guys I have one of the coolest jobs ever as chief nursing officer at nurse.org and doing this podcast because

[00:26:15] I get to talk to amazing nurses experts and people like all over the world and I almost kind of feel selfish because I know I'm I know I'm talking so you guys can hear but really this is all about

[00:26:26] me like I'm I'm asking for myself like oh this is cool this is you know interesting but I love sharing sharing is caring so uh Christine thank you so much for joining the podcast it was

[00:26:36] an absolute treat to talk to you hear about your journey and hear about these cool products and services that many of us need whether you're a new grad practicing nurse or nursing student we all could

[00:26:48] benefit from these friendly and they're so cute reminders um yeah you know in today and let's be honest in today's age we like pictures and videos because it just grabs the eye and if

[00:26:59] you can grab the eye it'll be easier for me to um memorize it I listen I'm not the neuro nurse here but I imagine there's different parts of the brain that process information differently

[00:27:09] that you know like the gentleman you were talking about earlier who had a photographic memory I wish I had one of those but these pictures help me to remember things so thanks so much for your gifts and your talents and sharing them with the world really appreciate you

[00:27:23] thank you for having me it's been lots of fun thanks and you guys shout out to nurse.org for hosting the podcast we'd love them if you haven't already make sure to visit

[00:27:30] nurse.org tons of great information from school um different programs um student loans what's going on in the nursing world uh things that are going on in the world that affect nursing um and all those

[00:27:43] great things and you can also check out all of the great articles and if you want to be a contributor there's also an opportunity to do that as well so make sure you check out nurse.org

[00:27:52] follow them on social and I'm Nurse Alice I always love chatting with you guys if you know let us know what you think about the podcast let us know uh we'd love to hear your feedback leave your comments your ratings reviews on your favorite podcast platform

[00:28:04] you can also email me at nurse Alice at nurse.org and listen here you can text us leave a voice memo at 725-910-9676 guys would love to hear from you sharing this caring show share this

[00:28:16] podcast with your friend your classmate your nursing instructor listen the people who create the syllabus is because this needs to be on there um and all those great things so until next time guys make good choices be kind to one another and live well my friends thanks for

[00:28:30] listening to Ask Nurse Alice visit nurse.org for nursing career education and community resources