Krabbe Disease with Kasey Feldt
Once Upon A GeneMarch 21, 2024

Krabbe Disease with Kasey Feldt

ONCE UPON A GENE - EPISODE 222

Krabbe Disease with Kasey Feldt


Kasey Feldt is the mom of two- one year old Lukas and Dawson, who passed away from Krabbe disease. Kasey has become a passionate and unstoppable advocate, not only advocating for Krabbe disease, but also the newborn screening system so kids have a better chance at early detection.


EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS


Can you tell us about yourself and your rare disease journey?

My son Dawson was diagnosed with Krabbe disease. He was born a healthy baby boy and at about three months old, my husband and I noticed symptoms such as lack of head control, eating difficulties and irritability. We began testing and at about six months old, we received a diagnosis of Krabbe disease, a terminal diagnosis. We kept Dawson comfortable for about eight months following his diagnosis and he passed away at fifteen months old. 


What is your advice for someone interested in policy advocacy?

Search and find out who your local lawmakers are, especially your Delegate. The EveryLife Foundation is a good source for information on policy advocacy and can help you to be successful. Also, gather your disease community because the more the merrier. 


How has advocating for Krabbe disease and newborn screening impacted you?

It became my passion to advocate for Krabbe disease, but also rare disease in general. When Dawson passed, I knew I wanted to do this work as a career. I started working for Sisters' Hope Foundation and it's been an amazing experience and honor to Dawson. 


LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED

ONCE UPON A GENE - EPISODE 214 - A Courageous Gift - The Power of Brain and Tissue Donation in Rare Disease Research with Anne Rugari

https://effieparks.com/podcast/episode-214-the-power-of-brain-and-tissue-donation-in-rare-disease-research

ONCE UPON A GENE - Episode 111 - The Importance of Newborn Screening in Every State with ALD Alliance Founder Elisa Seeger

https://effieparks.com/podcast/episode-111-elisa-seeger-ald-alliance

ONCE UPON A GENE - Episode 128 - Sisters’ Hope Foundation President and Founder Heidi Edwards on Recognizing ALSP Symptoms and the Importance of Genetic Testing

https://effieparks.com/podcast/episode-128-heidi-edwards

EveryLife Foundation

https://everylifefoundation.org/

KrabbeConnect

https://krabbeconnect.org/

Hunter's Hope

https://www.huntershope.org/

Krabbe Families Facebook Group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/krabbefamilies/

Librarey

https://www.librarey.com/

Sisters' Hope Foundation

https://sistershopefoundation.org/

World Orphan Drug 2024

https://www.terrapinn.com/conference/world-orphan-drug-congress-usa/

GeneDX

https://www.genedx.com/

Beyond The Diagnosis

https://www.beyondthediagnosis.org/


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[00:01:38] families like ours. So let's keep it up. I can't believe it's already spring. Slow down, slow down.

[00:01:45] Okay, I hope I see some of you at World Orphan Drug coming up in Boston, Massachusetts.

[00:01:52] On April 23rd through the 25th, I'm going to be speaking on a panel with my friends over at

[00:01:57] Gen. DX to talk about the importance of genetic testing. Of course, there's also going to be some

[00:02:02] super other fun stuff beyond the diagnosis is going to be there. Ford's portrait is going to be

[00:02:08] there. I get to see it in person for real. I'm going to cry and I'm sure there might be a secret

[00:02:13] on the feeling of a new little kiddo too. So I hope you can come if you're near Boston. Definitely show

[00:02:19] up. Advocates have free admission so make it happen if you can, okay? It'd be good to see some

[00:02:24] new faces and some friendly old ones of course. So today's conversation I have a very special advocate.

[00:02:32] I would say that she's sort of fresh and new but her journey has probably felt a lot longer than

[00:02:39] that and a lot more arduous than most. Her son Dawson was born into the world with a disorder called

[00:02:46] Crab A disease, some of which you probably know and she has become just a super motivated and

[00:02:54] passionate advocate. And I'm really excited to just watch her journey and see where this fuel takes

[00:03:01] her. I think she's going to be pretty unstoppable. She's not only advocating for Crab A but she's

[00:03:07] on a path to really help change the newborn screening system so these kids have a chance at

[00:03:13] early detection to completely change the outcome for these children who have this diagnosis.

[00:03:19] And I'm really excited for you to hear from her and learn from her and maybe be inspired for her

[00:03:24] and definitely send her a message of support if you can. She's very special and I'm super

[00:03:30] excited to have her on the show. Have a little conversation with her and introduce her to you.

[00:03:34] So please welcome my guest, Casey Feld. Hi Casey, welcome to the podcast.

[00:03:40] Hi F A. Thanks for having me. Yep, I'm really looking forward to chatting with you and helping

[00:03:45] to spread your story about Dawson and Crab A and newborn screening and all the things

[00:03:49] and I know you're doing a little work helping out library and you're also working with another

[00:03:54] foundation, your busy busy gal. So thanks for taking the time to talk to me. Could you do me a favor

[00:03:59] and give us a little introduction? Yeah, I'm Casey and I got into the rare disease space when my son Dawson

[00:04:07] was diagnosed with Crab A disease. He was born a perfectly healthy baby boy and been around like

[00:04:15] three to four months. My husband and I noticed symptoms such as lack of head control

[00:04:21] and feeding difficulties and just irritability. So long story short, we started doing all the testing

[00:04:30] in about six months. We got the diagnosis of Crab A disease and Crab A is a always terminal diagnosis.

[00:04:38] So we made him comfortable for about around eight months and he passed away at 15 months.

[00:04:45] So then I didn't know exactly where I wanted to go after he passed but something told me

[00:04:53] that I couldn't just let all this stuff, everything that we just went through happened and not

[00:05:00] take all that knowledge and all that pain and just let it go away. So I had to do something with

[00:05:06] that and I decided to start advocating for families with rare diseases, you know, look at

[00:05:12] industry families and that's kind of like why I'm here to share my story. I can only imagine that even

[00:05:18] blinking after losing your beautiful child is something that takes such guts. So especially with

[00:05:24] all that you're doing, it's really just remarkable Casey. So thank you for continuing and for

[00:05:29] advocating for other kids with Crab A. Thank you. As he was progressing I really didn't know

[00:05:36] how life was going to be after he passed like I didn't know if I was just going to lay in bed all day

[00:05:41] or have I would how life even looked after not taking care of my child. I'm used to being a mom

[00:05:49] and then it was so like it was just taken away but then I realized like I have to do something like

[00:05:56] this can't just keep happening people losing their children when there's newborn screening

[00:06:02] and we just have to spread awareness of this disease. So I've kind of made it my life goal, my admission.

[00:06:10] Could you share a little bit about Dawson with us? Sure he was my husband and I's first child

[00:06:17] and I can just tell you like a little bit about his personality and let's say his personality.

[00:06:23] He never spoke, we only got two laughs about it like from him but he had the biggest personality

[00:06:30] like he would roll his eyes when he was annoyed and but like he would do the biggest

[00:06:36] size when like you knew he was like okay I'm happy and he loved baby shark and

[00:06:45] Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and he just loved being like laying against your as my husband and I call it monkey

[00:06:52] and he was like the best co-wag. He's so beautiful. I'll make sure to add a photo of Dawson on

[00:06:59] carousel when we share this episode. He's so freaking cute. Okay well let's go back to that

[00:07:06] initial part where you started noticing three of super, super common symptoms that most of us

[00:07:11] face you know what the lack of the head control, the problems feeding and stuff like that.

[00:07:15] Did you have some initial challenges getting through the system and getting a diagnosis? It seems

[00:07:19] like you got a diagnosis fairly quickly so I'm imagining that these symptoms were perhaps very

[00:07:25] progressed. So like the head control was like the big thing that was like a red flag like

[00:07:31] especially with our pediatrician and then as like for the feeding it just seemed like it took

[00:07:37] longer for him to eat before it would take you know usually 30 minutes to give a baby like an 8-ounce

[00:07:44] bottle, it would take us 40 minutes just to get like four ounces in them and it just got progressively

[00:07:50] worse and then it got to the point where he would throw it all up after you were gave all that

[00:07:56] time to feed him, he threw it all up and we later found out he was aspirating on that food because

[00:08:02] he was having trouble swallowing. And then so as we started as our neurologist started testing

[00:08:08] he got an MRI and two days after that MRI he started having spasms and that's because that MRI

[00:08:14] had anesthesia and we later found out anesthesia does not sit well with crybaby babies.

[00:08:21] It took about two months to get a diagnosis I mean crybaby so rare so it took a while and a week

[00:08:28] week long hospital visit because he was just so dehydrated and we tried so hard to get food in him

[00:08:35] and he lost like two pounds in a short amount of time and he was just sick and shortly after

[00:08:43] that hospital stay he got the diagnosis and that was three weeks before the COVID shut down.

[00:08:48] It was just like so hard to hear and I know so many people have have gone through something almost

[00:08:56] just exactly like this, it's so frustrating right especially with the newborn screening stuff

[00:09:01] let's actually circle back there and I don't know what I'm talking about right now I'm just so

[00:09:04] annoyed by that okay so when you decided that you had to be a part of this change I want to kind of

[00:09:12] go back to that realization and that sort of charge that you started to lead for yourself and

[00:09:17] for your family and for Dawson because you are from Virginia and at that time there was no screening

[00:09:23] for Krabbe how many states were doing it and kind of give me out the lay of the land of where Krabbe

[00:09:28] was on the rust and newborn screening. I believe at the time there are 10 states I'm not exactly

[00:09:34] sure like when we enter the Krabbe world like how many states but there was a family in Virginia

[00:09:40] the Nicholas family they had already started that bill for Virginia and called Nicholas Law House

[00:09:46] Bill 97 and we kind of once we got connected with them they live like an hour from us so we met

[00:09:53] them in person and we kind of joined in on that fight and we were doing like work groups with

[00:10:01] the Department of Health for Virginia and we were trying to explain to them why early detection

[00:10:09] is so like important and why newborn screening is so important in pleading with them emotionally

[00:10:15] how it is with parents and we just kept getting shut down and shut down and shut down and so when

[00:10:19] it came to the vote in November they said no and that was four days after Dawson passed they said no

[00:10:26] and I was like I had to testify and I'm like literally crying testifying and the fact that they

[00:10:33] said no it was just like terrible so we were trying to do another bill and like a year or two later

[00:10:43] becomes you know Krabbe getting out into the rust and we're think we're there and they voted seven

[00:10:49] to seven so it got knocked down and it's just like we're always so close but then we get another shot

[00:10:57] in this January like this past January they voted 10 to three as a yes and it's just an amazing

[00:11:04] victory like I cried so hard when I saw that they passed it through honestly didn't think it was

[00:11:11] going to happen just because how many times we were said no like they told us no and the fact

[00:11:17] that they actually like finally were like okay it's time now let's get this going like it was just

[00:11:23] an amazing feeling yeah it mystifies me I mean I speak a lot on my issues with the rust

[00:11:30] and newborn screening but this disorder actually has some sort of treatment like obviously it's not

[00:11:36] perfect but it's something if anyone listen to Ann Regari's episode a few episodes ago I'll put it

[00:11:43] in the show notes she had two kids with Krabbe who both passed away but Gina actually lived

[00:11:48] into her teenage years due to a transplant and that's what you're fighting for right is to have

[00:11:54] more time with these beautiful children and to give them more of an opportunity to live their life

[00:11:59] so it's really difficult to understand why states would deny these bills when there is something

[00:12:05] available to help them live past you know 16 18 months old I mean and that's like all we're asking

[00:12:12] like as parents the poor asking for more time I never realized how much time is like how precious

[00:12:18] time is until we went through all of this and I only got 15 months with my son and like I wanted

[00:12:27] more I wanted more I wanted more like of course I'm more time with my son but at that cost it's

[00:12:35] pain like he's through pain so it's bittersweet in that time but I testify when it came to

[00:12:44] the rust and I told them you never know how precious time is until you're given an hour glass

[00:12:49] and you're just waiting for the stand to run out and if that's how it is you're just like it's

[00:12:54] with Krabbe it was just like a waiting game you never knew when that day was gonna come

[00:13:01] it's like every day you walk up like is this gonna be the day is this gonna be the day

[00:13:07] is this gonna be the day that was my son is this gonna be the day and emotionally it's

[00:13:13] torture and you just want to get through to these to the you know department of health these lawmakers

[00:13:19] that wish newborn screening and like translate early detection all that you don't have to look

[00:13:25] like that you know yes like translate is it perfect no is child gonna live like a pathody healthy life

[00:13:33] no but you get that time well and that can't be guaranteed for anyone right like

[00:13:40] you can we hit by bus like today like tomorrow like I mean that's just life

[00:13:46] there's other advocates that come to my mind who are passionate like you with newborn screening

[00:13:51] Taylor Cain and Alisa Seeger who've done so so much for Luka Disterfee's and I wonder what do you

[00:13:58] see your future role being in state legislation for newborn screening and especially Krabbe of course

[00:14:04] and other Luka Disterfee's or or what like what do you think that your advocacy level is gonna be

[00:14:10] at this point moving forward are you kind of gonna take a break because it's done in your state

[00:14:14] and you've accomplished a huge fee already or do you think that you're gonna kind of

[00:14:19] go out further and try to get this on all of the panels last year I was kind of working with

[00:14:25] every life um every life foundation and trying to get Virginia rust aligned but then they pushed

[00:14:32] it back to let's say I was due to this next year and I even worked with my delegate delegate

[00:14:38] auto-waxman um for Southampton County about trying to get Virginia Krabbe disease newborn screening

[00:14:45] but he said because it's not on the rust yet you know let's not go there yet and as soon as

[00:14:50] the rust it got added to the rust I gave him a call he's like let's do this let's do this for

[00:14:55] next year he said and I've been checking he's like I checked though like actually a couple of

[00:15:00] months ago if it was added he he is like let's do this oh my gosh I love that so much good job

[00:15:06] like seeking out your ambassadors and telling your story so they're invested that helps change

[00:15:12] the world yeah we're gonna get it in Virginia I know we are this has been a hard state

[00:15:17] and it's so frustrating because I was born here like I've lived your my whole entire life

[00:15:20] and it's just the fact that like okay you're doing me wrong like come on stop now help me out

[00:15:27] I give all of you who do this legislative policy work for our Red disease community so much credit

[00:15:33] because it is really difficult work and it feels like you're constantly just being pushed down

[00:15:38] the stairs and like your whole existence is in the hands of these strange old people who don't

[00:15:45] seem to be listening and it is so frustrating I've only like dipped my toe in here and there

[00:15:50] here in the state of Washington and it almost seems like a constant uphill battle and it can be

[00:15:56] it can feel really defeating so when there are families like you who have so much on your shoulders

[00:16:03] already who continue to fight for other families it is just I mean it's it's we're so I'm so

[00:16:10] thankful for you Casey I'm so thankful for people like you who do this really hard work because

[00:16:13] it's not like a glamorous type of advocacy it is hard it is really hard we were trying to get past

[00:16:20] the first time I remember I sat in the hotel room with Dawson my husband we went to Maryland for

[00:16:26] like his work whatever and I sat and I wrote every like delegate in Virginia about like

[00:16:33] help me with this bill help me with this bill help me with this bill every senator I mean everybody

[00:16:38] like saying email just change their change the name and a lot of time sending get responses all

[00:16:44] of times it's like oh well you got to contact your delegate but I mean just a how-and-it people

[00:16:51] is it's not for the week no it's really not what kind of advice or maybe like a short to-do list

[00:16:58] would you give someone who's maybe intrigued about policy advocacy in where they could start and

[00:17:05] like what kind of things can they do that'll give them the biggest bang for their book on

[00:17:10] contributing and especially to those people who are like I want to help but I have all of these

[00:17:15] barriers to make me do this and this and this kind of agacity but maybe I can send emails like

[00:17:19] kind of give me a little breakdown about what people can do I would definitely contact every life

[00:17:24] from where to start search your you know your lawmakers like who's in your area especially your

[00:17:30] delegate because they can help they have connections and they can definitely like walk you through

[00:17:35] things because like my delegate he made the calls to like the health advisory board and stuff

[00:17:40] when he was trying to figure out like okay is this a good time to do it what are you thinking

[00:17:44] and he said that you know last year was in a good time because it wasn't on the rust so he did

[00:17:49] what to like for all this time an emotional you know like training into this bill and it just

[00:17:56] gets shut down again but I would definitely talk to your your delegate and call and email I would

[00:18:03] start with the delegate and you know every life foundation can definitely help you on anything

[00:18:08] in worst-creening yeah I need to get the every life foundation on the show I don't know why they

[00:18:12] haven't been on here yet I feel like they have because I you know I'm so embedded but I need to get

[00:18:16] them on here yeah anything policy work definitely contact the every life foundation dot org and they're

[00:18:21] also there's they also run so many workshops and trainings so like they can build you up as an

[00:18:26] advocate like this and they can really give you all the toolkits for you to be successful and make

[00:18:31] this happen in your states and there's just a lot of really beautiful people that that work they're

[00:18:36] involved here there so and getting like your disease organization involved like so for crab

[00:18:42] day is like Hunter's Hope and crab make and um the look at this fee um newborn screening action

[00:18:49] network like anybody that's like related to your disease specific get them into the more than

[00:18:55] the area you know I feel like maybe there's just some sort of magical something or other with families

[00:19:02] who have these beautiful kids with lucodistrophies because I feel like almost everyone I know who is

[00:19:08] pounding the pavement for newborn screening is connected in some way to a lucodistrophy family

[00:19:14] or a parent of one or a sibling or a child and I wonder why and and I think of Alisa's story if

[00:19:21] anyone remembers back to that episode you know her son Aiden was seven and that's when he started

[00:19:27] to have symptoms and get sick and passed away very quickly afterwards but she had been researching

[00:19:32] his symptoms in the hospital when he got sick and she was like wait a second this test was here

[00:19:37] the whole time it just wasn't in New York and I and I wonder if it's just that sort of injustice

[00:19:44] that has fired up this community so much because it's there and treatments are there and states don't

[00:19:50] have them on their on their newborn screening panels how could you not want to burn a building down

[00:19:54] when you knew that it was there and just not there for you the day of diagnosis that and I found

[00:19:59] that there was a newborn screening test and that all for jimmya didn't offer it I was furious I was

[00:20:06] like so I mean I was already like furious about you know getting this diagnosis and grief in all

[00:20:12] of the emissions but when knowledge is said like he wouldn't call it the newborn screening like

[00:20:17] other states and I was just like what like why like why don't we just all offer the same thing

[00:20:23] like why is this why is this a thing I would for sure be in prison to I would be in prison yeah

[00:20:29] guaranteed can you speak on any types of supports or or whatever stuff was most beneficial to you

[00:20:36] in Alex during Dawson's first part of his life like any community supports that really made a

[00:20:42] difference for you or that you would recommend that maybe you found later that helped families

[00:20:46] honestly of the biggest support was like Krabi Kenaik and Hunters Hope and then the Facebook group

[00:20:52] Krabi families I would go on there and ask a question and people would flood like oh try this

[00:20:58] try that try this it was like a family of nurses and doctors on there and everyone says like

[00:21:05] you're more of a doctor than other people because you know your child and everyone says Dr. Esklar

[00:21:11] is way to go or Dr. Kersberg way to go and then you're the next best one because you know your

[00:21:17] child and you know what to do is just such a rare disease you instantly become like a nurse

[00:21:23] for your child I met so many wonderful families on Krabi families Facebook group

[00:21:29] that I'm friends with today and that's been like one of the best things that came out of

[00:21:36] this whole craziness and sadness and like wonderfulness in the same time is meaning these families that's

[00:21:44] been there for us. Amen. How has advocating for Krabi disease and newborn screening changed

[00:21:52] you personally like what's been the most rewarding or or challenging part of this for you like

[00:21:59] in your heart or even practically? It has definitely been it became my new passion

[00:22:05] but not just advocating for Krabi but just for her disease in general like when he passed like I

[00:22:11] knew I wanted to do this like as a corporate or not just volunteer work and I just grinded

[00:22:17] and and cried and brewed to not to any and all rare disease you know like organizations like

[00:22:22] hey you hire and take your hire and like I have this personal experience and I eventually like

[00:22:27] broke that barrier and you know started working for a library and this is just hope foundation

[00:22:32] and that's where I'm at today and it's been the most amazing. I'm finally like where I've wanted to

[00:22:38] be in a long time in honor of Dawson and you know I don't know why Dawson got this diagnosis

[00:22:46] while we lost him like I don't think I'll ever understand the why but I think I'm like heading in

[00:22:53] the direction of like okay he's sending me to do God's work this is not only explanation of

[00:23:00] like where I'm supposed to be or why all this happened if that makes any kind of sense. Of course it

[00:23:08] does I think it makes a lot of sense I think it makes a lot of sense and also none at all because

[00:23:14] like you said it just it just never should have happened in the first place but I very much

[00:23:18] respect you and definitely identify with you in terms of how much fighting for this and changing

[00:23:28] the landscape for the next family and the next family and the next family feels and how much it

[00:23:32] pushes you to do better and be better and the connections that you make so like I I sing your praise

[00:23:39] as there. I mean I totally totally get that and I think it's such a beautiful transformation in this

[00:23:44] whole journey right that could lock you in a dark dark hole forever and ever and one couldn't even

[00:23:50] be shamed by that but the fact that you're out there doing what you're doing and it is helping you

[00:23:57] and helping other people is really really special and I'm glad you're doing it and shout out again

[00:24:03] to library you mentioned them Sierra Phillips and them and also Heidi from my sister's hope oh my

[00:24:08] gosh I'm so glad you found her Heidi is such a hero and she's also been on this podcast my sister's

[00:24:14] hope foundation and she's very active on TikTok now which brings me a lot of joy I love her videos

[00:24:20] so I'm so happy she has you and I think it's really cool too that you're using all of your skills

[00:24:26] for anyone and everyone who is willing to put you on so that's very cool and it's also cool to

[00:24:35] just expand out right and meet all of the other rare disease people not just in your in your

[00:24:40] community because I can imagine too like with the crab bay community that perhaps you can get

[00:24:46] just kind of super laser focused on it right because that's your life.

[00:24:50] Right but you can also get I call it crab bay out where you just see so much crab bay crab

[00:24:56] crab bay and I'm just like okay I can take a break yeah yeah I was thinking like you could probably

[00:24:59] get some sort of like compassion fatigue in a way and like it's just all consuming.

[00:25:06] Right because it just point you flashbacks as everything that happened you know the Dawson

[00:25:10] you're like okay I just take break it's bringing so many flashbacks which also which also takes

[00:25:18] a lot of awareness to get to to know when you got when you got a step back so tell me about your

[00:25:23] family today I know you have another little one yes after Dawson passed we looked into IVF

[00:25:29] and we started that process and we now have Lucas he is almost two and he's completely

[00:25:36] unaffected crab bay does he even carry the genes that's not anything we have to worry about in

[00:25:41] the future yeah he is crazy he is wonderful his favorite word is no and he looks just like Dawson.

[00:25:50] Oh my gosh we named him Lucas after Dawson because Dawson's middle name is Luke and that's why his

[00:25:58] his middle uh his name is spelled L-U-K-A-S is how right after Dawson Luke so beautiful I

[00:26:05] we won't go into it today but probably for the future we'll talk to you and maybe even pop

[00:26:10] Taylor on this episode about IVF for family planning for these types of disorders I know we'd

[00:26:16] chat about maybe talking about that at some point so obviously there's so many families who

[00:26:21] consider going through that with different disorders like crab bay and senflipo and all those things

[00:26:25] so we'll chat about that topic later will you are courageous and brave woman kacy I commend you

[00:26:33] and I think everything that you're doing is so awesome and you're helping to change the world so

[00:26:38] thank you for everything and thank you for sharing Dawson and Luke and your family story

[00:26:42] I know it probably is difficult sometimes but you're making such a big difference so I really

[00:26:47] appreciate you being on this show today to share some of your story and if there's anything else

[00:26:52] that you can leave for anyone any advice any any sort of empowerment to get started and do

[00:26:57] something in advocacy or anyone who's just in the thick of it and who is grieving a loss of the child

[00:27:04] I would say like if you're this thing with like a diagnosis and you're taking care of your

[00:27:09] first-year child like every day you need to have your out like your time two years so I know

[00:27:15] it so cliche to say but you really need to make time for yourself I did that I had like a little

[00:27:22] like crafting psychic but if I would have if I didn't have that I felt like I would have

[00:27:28] like lost myself honestly like take time for yourself read a book go for a walk join the

[00:27:35] ones with pyjee walking therapy oh yes she did I didn't even pay her to say that it's so important

[00:27:42] to take care of yourself when you're going to do like something like this and there's no

[00:27:49] right or wrong way to breathe advocating with my way but if you want to lay in your bed every day

[00:27:55] and watch Netflix that is fine too amen whatever gets you through the day okay kacy well I look

[00:28:04] forward to watching you grow as an advocate and to see all of the amazing things that you contribute

[00:28:11] your talents and skills and heart towards so I appreciate it and thank you so so much no

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